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I was in the locker room, I remember I was changing and there were three shifts you had to do for training, I was getting ready to do my second one like, Okay, I just got this email from Derek and I remember texting Michael asking him, "What I do? Then after that project I started at Tory Burch and I've been there now for four years.I'm only reminded of that because Linked In is now sending me "Happy Anniversary" messages.JAMES: I think Michael's discovered that you can really position any product to any one at any time.That's kind of an interesting part of the retail industry and fashion. You have your developers and your strategists and your designers and your project managers, there's not a physical product.One's a product that's supposed to be fun and shiny and it's exciting and you can talk to people about it, but then all the Antarctic stuff's really business-to-business which is inherently more serious. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't and then he gets upset with me. Then I guess James goes to work because I'm working at home right now. O., there's like some remnants of a new business starting, there's diner going...TWP: What have you learned from being with each other?It's one short-cut boxers in seven colors, but they're perfect.Now that I understand how it all works we're doing a bunch of other styles.
MICHAEL: I'll counter that with Fashion Week, when James taps out for two weeks and comes home at midnight or in the morning and leaves at a.m. JAMES: And it's a different job when you walk into the door you have to switch gears. There's this long narration or whole world going on in his head that he creates. If he wants to do something he's not going to wait for anything, he'll begin to pursue it immediately which I think is really inspiring because I'm a little more shy. I think we get a lot of exciting things done whether it's my idea and Michael executes or his idea and he runs with it. JAMES: We've learned to drop certain things and pick it up in a couple days. It's not a total deal breaker if something happens, you know what I mean?You can find a market for anything if it's packaged the right way or if it's delivered in the right tone. The product's what's made from those people so it's a lot of hands-on management.I think there's a lot of possibility to be creative and have fun. Whereas the underwear line, the clothing line, is a product and it sells itself a little.Then they called us or texted us, and they're like, "Hey, actually, we're not coming back and we're staying in L. I was interning a lot and trying to meet as many people at different companies as I could.
One company I was at, Derek Lam, contacted me after college to do a collection with him. JAMES: I was actually working at the Standard Grill at the time, on my second day of training as a bus boy. Leave." I left and started on that project for six or nine months.
I feel like I can put the peddle down on the advertising and the marketing and the sales will go up, because I have a market identified, which is all gay men.
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